While Tanzanian officials claim that former Ugandan President, Yusufu Lule, is living in Dar es Salaam as an honoured guest of President Julius Nyerere, members of this family continue to allege he is being detained against his will.
SV & CU Waswa Lule, son of former Ugandan President, Professor Yusufu Lule answering questions in London
LULE: "To date the Tanzanian High Minister had refused me an audience to make a plea to him about my father's safety. I don't believe a word he says."
FARROW: Do you say that this is a lie and your father is being held against his will?"
LULE: "Exactly. He is being held under duress. He told me himself."
FARROW: "When did he tell you that?"
LULE: "On Sunday morning. Last Sunday morning."
FARROW: "Why do you think the Tanzanian government would do this to your father?"
LULE: "Well, my father refused to be a puppet of President Nyerere and Nyerere refused him. And then Nyerere sees him as a threat."
FARROW: "How do you think your father himself sees his position in Uganda?"
LULE: "My father's interests were as he stated. To go back to Uganda in astable economy, a stable country to retire. He was asked to lead a group of people. Though he is not a member of nau political group. But he was asked by them just to be a central figure. To work for the nation. He came out of retirement to do this. And he was given assurances by.....Nyerere. Thus his interest is in the nation. The future of the nation as far as I know will be decided by the people."
FARROW: "So you feel your father has been betrayed by President Nyerere?"
FARROW: "And what do you, yourself propose to do about it?"
LULE: " I intend to meet President Nyerere on every forum that there is. I'll meet him at the OAU. AT the Commonwealth conference, at the U.N., and in every country where he will step, I will be there waiting for him."
FARROW: "Do you fear for your father's safety?"
LULE: "Oh yes, very much so. In fact the whole family is very worried."
FARROW: "There have been suggestions that behind the whole family is very worried."
FARROW: "There have been suggestions that behind the whole problem in Uganda is tribalism. What do you say to that?"
LULE: "Well, there are some people who are power hungry who want to destabilise, to draw attention from the real facts. Ugandans are not fighting against themselves. It's not a civil war. It's a war against colonisers are .....?"
LULE: "The Tanzanians."
On Sunday (1 July) Tanzania pledged continued backing for the Ugandan government of President Godfrey Binaisa. But last week pro-Lule demonstrations stopped food from reaching Kam???ala and shop customers waited for supplies to arrive under military escort.
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Background: While Tanzanian officials claim that former Ugandan President, Yusufu Lule, is living in Dar es Salaam as an honoured guest of President Julius Nyerere, members of this family continue to allege he is being detained against his will. Last Thursday (28 June) the Tanzanian High Commissioner in London, Mr. Amon Nsekela, said Dr. Lule was staying in comfort in one wing of Tanzania's State House. But he did not say Professor Lule was free to leave. On Monday (2 July), Mr. Waswa Lule, his son, called Ambassador Nsekela a liar. He said his father had told him a week ago that he was being detained against his will. Mr. Waswa Lule was interviewed in London by Visnews' Brendan Farrow.