Rhodesia -- and while negotiations continue in Geneva over details of an independence date, it's reported from the Swiss city that two of the black African nationalists have been discussing whether to shelve talks about dates and instead concentrate on the make-up of an interim government.
CU's Rhodesian black nationalist leader Robert Mugavbe interviewed in Geneva, Switzerland
REPORTER: "World you compensate white people for the loss of farms and businesses that would result from the policy?"
MUGABE: "That's a very strange question. Why should the whites have to be compensated? It must be remembered that they established their fortunes on the principle of exploitation of labour. If one is to talk of compensating the whites, one must also talk of compensating the masses of the people they've exploited over years. Who will compensate the underpaid worker? He has been underpaid for ages. So you have got to look at both sides. If we compensate the master, we must also compensate the servant, who was exploited by the master."
REPORTER: "And will you do both?"
MUGABE: "We won't do either."
REPORTER: "Do you feel bitter towards whites in Rhodesia after eleven years in prison at their hands?"
MUGABE: "Well, I'm not bitter against them s such--as individuals. they're part of the government. But certainly in... as much as they have perpetrated brutalities and atrocities against our people, well it's time to be tried for those cruelties, and I think any future government must bring them to judgement for these wrongs. But they must be tried in an open court. This is my belief."
REPORTER: "So will there be military trials -- trials of people in the police force, trials perhaps of politicians, after independence?"
MUGABE: "Well, I think it's more the people who constitute the illegal regime, who are responsible, who have been responsible, for the illegality, for the illegal system under which a system of oppression has continued in the country, and these have got to be brought to book, so they can answer for their crimes."
REPORTER: "Ian Smith included?"
MUGABE: "Ian Smith is at the head of this criminal gang, isn't he?"
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Background: Rhodesia -- and while negotiations continue in Geneva over details of an independence date, it's reported from the Swiss city that two of the black African nationalists have been discussing whether to shelve talks about dates and instead concentrate on the make-up of an interim government. The move could decide the future black leadership of Rhodesia. One of the leader s involved is Robert Mugabe, who's been asked what he would do if he became head of a black Rhodesian government under a policy of socialism.