In South Africa, a United Nations team led by Under-Secretary Brian Urquhart, has completed a week of talks with a South African government delegation and representatives of internal parties from South West Africa (Namibia).
SV INTERIOR UN Under-Secretary Brian Urquhart leads UN delegation into Union building in Pretoria, South Africa. (3 SHOTS)
CU South African Foreign Minister Mr. Pik Botha being interviewed in English.
SV ZOOM INTO CU Mr. Urquhart speaking at news conference.
CU Two men at table, General Prem Shand at right listening.
CU Mr. Urquhart replying to newsman's questions.
BOTHA: "It looks to me at this stage that we would not be able to say much until Mr. Urquhart's report is submitted to Dr. Waldheim and Dr. Waldheim's report is submitted to the United Nations."
URQUHART: "In fact, we are not quite at the end of our talks here, because we shall be meeting with Mr. Fourie at the airport before we leave. And that, I think, will be an important meeting. But, at the moment, that is all I want to say about it. Let me simply close by repeating that, in spite of all the difficulties which all of the parties have with the extremely complex problem we in the United Nations Secretariat shall continue our efforts to overcome those problems with the objective of an early implementation of the resolution."
REPORTER: "At this stage, any possibility of an all-party conference?"
URQUHART: "This, you know, under various names, is an idea which has been discussed many times in the past. And, all I can say is, that as far as we are concerned, our framework is the Security Council resolution 435. and our very strong position that it is now the time to go forward. Now, if any other kind of meeting as an adjunct to that framework was thought by everyone concerned to be a good idea, that I'm sure it would be very well worth considering. But, I have to say it within that framework, because that is the only framework we could, I think, discuss it."
REPORTER: "But, should someone make such a proposal, for example, one of the democratic parties in South West Africa, would you try to convince, for example SWAPO to partake in such a conference?"
URQUHART: "Well, I think the parties have got to really convince each other. I mean, if they all became convince each other. I mean, if they all became convinced that -- and I'm talking now about SWAPO, the South African government, the frontline states, and everybody else who's intimately involved in this -- I mean, if it was the conclusion that this would be a useful and sort of forward going exercise, than I don't have any doubts that they will agree to it."
REPORTER: "Was the DMZ discussed in any details?"
URQUHART: "Well, there are a number ...as you know, it's quite a complicated proposal. And indeed in the course of these rather extensive discussions on all sorts of subjects, a number of points relating to the DMZ did come us, yes. But, I don't ...as far as we are concerned, we think that these problems can be overcome in the context of going ahead. And, we certainly take very careful note of what the South African government have told us about them."
REPORTER: CHRISTOPHER KRITZINGER
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Background: In South Africa, a United Nations team led by Under-Secretary Brian Urquhart, has completed a week of talks with a South African government delegation and representatives of internal parties from South West Africa (Namibia). Mr. Urquhart also had informal talks with the South African Foreign Minister, Mr. Pik Botha. Before leaving on Saturday (25 October) to report to the UN Secretary-General, Dr. Kurt Waldheim, Mr. Urquhart told a news conference he hoped the various discussions, which he called useful, had helped towards setting a date for the territory's independence process. South Africa's director-general of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Brand Fourie, who headed the government delegation, would not say what he hoped would emerge from informal talks, which Mr. Urquhart had said would continue.
SYNOPSIS: South Africa continues to rule Namibia in defiance of UN resolutions. During the talks the UN team failed to get a firm date to implement plans leading to independence. Mr. Botha, and Mr. Urquhart gave their assessments: