Speaking in an interview in London on Thursday (27 February) Tanzanian Foreign Minister John Malecela repeated the call for Britain to convene a constitutional conference to settle the problems of Rhodesia.
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HULL: "Minister, will you be officially discussing the Rhodesian situation during your stay in Britain?"
MALECELA: "Well, certainly I hope to discuss this matter with the British Foreign Secretary, Mr. Callaghan, and, I must say, to be certain, there would be an exchange of views on the issue. As you know, a few weeks back he was in Tanzania where he had the occasion to discuss the problem with our President."
HULL: "While he was in Tanzania, I believe the Tanzanian point of view was that Britain should call or convene a constitutional conference. Is that still you primary objective?"
MALECELA: "Well, it is still our primary objective because we really think this will be the only answer...because once you call a constitutional conference, then the parties will go and state their case. Then we will see, once and for all, whether the solution can be solved through the conference table or through the fighting."
HULL: "In the past week, you've been very critical of French policy in southern Africa. Can you elaborate on those criticisms?"
MALECELA: "Yes, I will elaborate that we in Africa really are becoming increasingly convinced that the French Government is -- now and then -- defying not only the United Nations, but also the whole of Africa. We think that France has a role to play as far as African matters are concerned...but certainly we see it as a very negative role. When the whole of the United Nations says: `Don't sell arms to South Africa', France still sells arms to South Africa. When we tell other powers to disengage in South Africa, France does almost the opposite. While it is true that we cannot tell the French Government what to do, the French people must understand that by doing these things, they are certainly earning the wrath of Africa. And I don't think that we Africans would simply sit back and see the French defy what we want done as far as South Africa in concerned."
HULL: "Do you think there can ever really be detente in southern Africa while South Africa continues to practice apartheid?"
MALECELA: "No, there will not. Detente can only come when there is justice in that part of the world."
SYNOPSIS: The offices of the Royal Commonwealth Society in London...where, on Thursday, Tanzanian Foreign Minister John Malecela addressed members on the liberation of Africa. Before giving his talk, Mr. Malecela -- in Britain for a short visit -- was interviewed by Visnews reporter Tony Hull.
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Background: Speaking in an interview in London on Thursday (27 February) Tanzanian Foreign Minister John Malecela repeated the call for Britain to convene a constitutional conference to settle the problems of Rhodesia.
Mr. Malecela also re-iterated his criticisms of French arms deals with South Africa which he had previously described as sabotaging Africa's freedom struggle. Speaking to Visnews reporter Tony Hull, the Tanzanian Foreign Minister warned that Africa would not be prepared to sit back and watch as South Africa received areas supplies from Europe.
Together with Tanzania's President Julius Nyerere, Mr. Malecela took part in a series of close discussions on the question of a constitutional settlement in Rhodesia with British Foreign Secretary James Callaghan during his tour of Africa capitals earlier this year.