• Short Summary

    BY 493 VOTES TO 466, THE OXFORD UNION SOCIETY REJECTED LAST NIGHT (THURSDAY) A MOTION THAT "THIS HOUSE WOULD NOT FIGHT FOR QUEEN AND COUNTRY." THIS MAJORITY OF 27 REVERSED THE RESULT OF THE FAMOUS "KING AND COUNTRY" MOTION IN FEBRUARY, 1933, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY 275 TO 153.

  • Description

    1.
    GV MEMBERS OUTSIDE HALL
    0.05

    2.
    CU SIGN "OXFORD UNION"
    0.07

    3.
    SV PRESIDENT TARIQ ALI WITH GUEST SPEAKERS
    0.15

    4.
    SV STUDENTS ENTER HALL (2 SHOTS)
    0.23

    5.
    CU CHAIRMAN, TITLE SUPERIMPOSED READS "MOTION FOR DEBATE THAT THIS HOUSE WILL NOT FIGHT FOR QUEEN AND COUNTRY"
    0.34

    6.
    GV ASSEMBLY
    0.38

    7.
    SV PRESIDENT INTRODUCES FIRST SPEAKER (SOF STARTS)
    0.45

    8.
    SV MR RIP BULKELEY TAKES STAND
    0.53

    9.
    SV MR MAUDLING SEATED
    0.56

    10.
    CU MR BULKELEY SPEAKS FOR THE MOTION (SOF)
    1.20

    11.
    CU INDIAN STUDENT APPLAUDS
    1.28

    12.
    CU MR BULKELEY SPEAKS
    1.36

    13.
    CU CUTAWAY OF WAR MEMORIAL PLAQUE DURING MR BULKELEY'S SPEECH
    1.56

    14.
    CU MR BULKELEY SPEAKS
    2.23

    15.
    GV CLAPPING
    2.28

    16.
    LV PRESIDENT INTRODUCES REGINALD MAUDLING (SOF)
    2.50

    17.
    MR MAUDLING SPEAKS (SOF)
    3.17

    18.
    SV MR MAUDLING AT STAND
    3.21

    19.
    GV CLAPPING
    3.26

    20.
    GV MEMBERS MOVE TOWARDS LOBBIES
    3.30

    21.
    SV MEMBERS LEAVING LOBBIES
    3.37

    22.
    SV PAN..TELLERS HAND RESULTS TO PRESIDENT (SOF)
    3.56

    23.
    GV CHEERS
    4.04


    TRANSCRIPT:



    (SEQ 7) TARIQ ALI: "I NOW CALL UPON MR. RIP BULKELEY, EXETER TO MOVE THE MOTION STANDING IN HIS NAME".



    (SEQ 10) BULKELEY: "EACH INDIVIDUAL SHOULD ONLY BE ASKED TO TAKE THE LIVES OF HIS FELLOW MEN, AND PERHAPS TO GIVE HIS OWN LIFE AS WELL, FOR SOME PRINCIPLE THAT HE BELIEVES IN AS AN INDIVIDUAL, AND NOT JUST BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN ASKED TO DO SO BY CROWN AND PARLIAMENT, PERHAPS FOR SOME CONFLICT OVER MERE NATIONAL PRESTIGE OR OVERSEAS COMMERCIAL INTEREST".



    APPLAUSE



    "AND INDEED IT IS NO ACCIDENT THAT THE MEN WHO PASSED THIS MOTION IN 1933 WERE AMONG THOSE BRAVE MEN WHO FOUGHT AGAINST FASCISM IN THE LAST WAR. FOR, OF COURSE, IT WAS SUCH MEN AS THIS WHO WERE AMONG THE FIRST IN THIS COUNTRY TO REALIZE THE ISSUE OF PRINCIPLE AT STAKE BETWEEN THEMSELVES AND FASCISM, AND IT IS ONE OF THE IRONIES OF HISTORY THAT THOSE POLITICIANS, THOSE JOURNALISTS WHO PREFER TO PROMOTE THE SHORT SIGHTED NATIONAL INTERESTS OF THIS COUNTRY BY POLICIES OF APPEASEMENT, BY THE POLICIES OF NON INTERVENTION IN SPAIN, IN ALBANIA, IN ABYSSIANIA, THE RHINELAND, CZECHOSLOVAKIA,--THAT THOSE MEN AND THOSE WHO THINK LIKE THEM HAVE DARED TO TURN UPON THE DEMOCRATS, THE SOCIALISTS, THE LIBERALS OF THE OXFORD UNION IN 1933, UPON MEN, SOME OF WHOM WENT INTO BATTLE AGAINST FASCIST TROOPS IN SPAIN THREE YEARS BEFORE HIS MAJESTY'S MEN HAD FINISHED PLAYING "GRAND OLD DUKE OF YORK".



    (SEQ 16) TARIQ ALI: "IT IS WITH VERY GREAT PLEASURE INDEED THAT I CALL ON THE RIGHT HONOURABLE REGINALD MAUDLING M.P. MERTON, SHADOW FOREIGN SECRETARY, TO SPEAK SIXTH, AND AGAINST THE MOTION".



    (SEQ 17) MR. MAUDLING: "OUR SYSTEM SURELY MUST DEPEND UPON ACCEPTING OF RULE BY THE MAJORITY DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED. THAT MUST BE SO. I WOULD FIGHT FOR A CONSERVATIVE BRITAIN. I WOULD FIGHT FOR A SOCIALIST BRITAIN. I WOULD FIGHT AGAINST IT TOO INTERNALLY. (LAUGHTER) BUT A COMMUNIST BRITAIN OR A FASCIST BRITAIN IS NOT A DEMOCRATIC BRITAIN, WOULD NOT BE A BRITAIN OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE".



    (SEQ 22) TARIQ ALI: "THERE HAVING VOTED AGAINST THE MOTION 493 MEMBERS AND FOR THE MOTION 466 MEMBERS. (CHEERING)......




    Initials DR/V-B/TELE/RM/JM DR/V-B/TELE/RM/ES


    EDITORS PLEASE NOTE: TURN UP SOUND ON FILM AT 23 FEET 38 SECONDS.

    Script is copyright Reuters Limited. All rights reserved

    Background: BY 493 VOTES TO 466, THE OXFORD UNION SOCIETY REJECTED LAST NIGHT (THURSDAY) A MOTION THAT "THIS HOUSE WOULD NOT FIGHT FOR QUEEN AND COUNTRY." THIS MAJORITY OF 27 REVERSED THE RESULT OF THE FAMOUS "KING AND COUNTRY" MOTION IN FEBRUARY, 1933, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY 275 TO 153. SO MUCH CONTROVERSY HAD BEEN GENERATED BEFORE THE DEBATE THAT A POLICE GUARD HAD BEEN PROVIDED FOR TARIQ ALI OF PAKISTAN, THE UNION PRESIDENT.

    UNDERGRADUATES HAD QUEUED FOR HOURS BEFORE THE OPENING OF THE DEBATE. BUT AFTER THE WIDESPREAD PUBLICITY GIVEN TO THE OCCASION, THE DEBATE ITSELF WAS A SOBER AFFAIR, WITH ONLY SHORT BURSTS OF APPLAUSE FOR THE SIX SPEAKERS WHO TOOK PART.

    OTHER SPEAKERS DURING THE DEBATE INCLUDED MR. NORMAN ST JOHN STEVAS, CONSERVATIVE MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT FOR CHELMSFORD, OPPOSING THE MOTION, AND SIR RICHARD ACLAND, A FORMER LABOUR MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT, SPEAKING IN SUPPORT.

    THE DEBATE BEGAN WITH UNION TREASURER BULKELEY PROPOSING THE MOTION:
    MR. MAUDLING WAS THE LAST SPEAKER: HE WAS INTRODUCED BY THE PRESIDENT.

    THEN THE VOTING TOOK PLACE. AFTER THE VOTES WERE COUNTED THE RESULT WAS ANNOUNCED.

    THE DEBATE ON THE SAME QUESTION IN 1933 BROUGHT A RESOUNDING VICTORY FOR THE PACIFISTS AND WAS CRITICISED AS ENCOURAGING THE NAZIS.

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  • Data

    Film ID:
    VLVA18JREYZD58XMPVDMX17UXLZUP
    Media URN:
    VLVA18JREYZD58XMPVDMX17UXLZUP
    Group:
    Reuters - Source to be Verified
    Archive:
    Reuters
    Issue Date:
    21/05/1965
    Sound:
    Unknown
    HD Format:
    Available on request
    Stock:
    Black & White
    Duration:
    00:04:06:00
    Time in/Out:
    /
    Canister:
    N/A

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